Night Shootout: Panasonic GF1 vs Canon 5D Mk II

Zagreb by Night - Panorama

When I was talking to a fellow travel photographer, Paul, to organise a bit of a test of these two cameras, I was expecting the scene to look a little bit like the one above, which I shot 2 days later.

The plan was to for me to take a few night shots of Zagreb, while Paul put together a time-lapse video, then at the end of it shoot a few frames that were as close as possible so that we could get an idea of just how much difference there is between the images from the two cameras.

Instead of nice clear blue sky however, as the shooting progressed we ended up with lots of cloud by the time it got around to do a comparison. Nevertheless I've put together some comparison shots.

Have a look at the full post for details and samples! (If you're not interested in reading a technical comparison of 2 cameras... no need to read further!)

No... Its not Fair!

This "test" was aimed at getting an impression - not really to provide a "fair" comparison. We were aiming to get the exposure value and depth of field as close together as possible.

The Cameras:

  Canon 5D Mark II Panasonic DMC GF1
Lens Canon 17-35mm f2.8 L Olympus 9-18mm f4-5.6
Weight (body) 810g - 28.6oz 285g - 10.05 oz
Weight (lens) 545g - 19.2 oz 275g - 9.7 oz
Price (Body) $2499 (body only) $749 (with 14-45 lens)
Price (lens) $1,350.00 (used) $474.99 (new)
Raw file size 29.2 MB 13.9 MB

Settings used:

  Canon 5D Mark II Panasonic DMC GF1
Aperture f6.3 f4
Shutter speed 30 seconds 15 seconds
ISO rating 125 100 (125 equiv)
Mounted: Tripod gorillapod
White Balance Auto Auto
Focus Auto Manual

Conditions:

In many ways the conditions for the test weren't exactly conducive to taking nice night-time photos. The lighting for the streets comes mainly from Gas street lights, but at this time the clouds are absorbing a lot of tungsten light pollution from the city.

Although we'd planned to get identical shots, my version of the image with light trails is blurred due to bumping the pole that my gorillapod and camera were hanging off! As a result this image is taken slightly (ax. 1 min) later with different cloud formations.

As you can see from the default images produced by Lightroom, both cameras have difficulty with the White Balance.

Hot Pixels:

I wasn't expecting to see hot pixels in either image. When using the Olympus E30 at night with similar settings, there simply wouldn't be any. At 45-60 seconds they start to creep in.

The GF1 and 5DII images both have hot pixels that are evident in the images - in the case of the 5D these are controlled quite well by the color NR in Lightroom. On the GF1 they're not that evident, but you can still see traces of artifacts where they've been and they result in slight image degradation. At 30sec on the GF1 they're very prevalent. Both images are however taken at the end of a fairly long nighttime shoot so both cameras are well and truly "warmed up".

Compared to the Olympus E30, it seems that the much smaller body on the GF1 comes at the cost of some signal processing and probably more tightly packed circuitry which tends to increase overall heat.

Sharpness:

There is one crop below that stands out as an area where the GF1's image is clearly sharper. This is taken from the right part of the frame which is also one of the areas closest to the camera.

While on explanation could be that it shows corner softness in the Canon's images, this isn't consistent with the crop taken from the other extremity. The right part of the image is however physically closer to the camera.

Pixel-peeping the entire image, this difference can be seen across the whole image along the paving right up to a point just past the first set of flags. Before this point, the GF1 image is sharper, after it the Canon. Clearly this difference is a lens and focus issue. I suspect that the point at which "infinity" starts on the Olympus lens is closer than on the Canon.

Dynamic Range

An area of clear difference between the two is in Dynamic range. This can be seen in both the highlights and shadows. The 5D image retains detail in the clock and there is also significantly more shadow detail - if you try to recover the highlights in the clock, you can get back almost all the numbers. On the GF1 you get no more detail than can be seen in the crop.

In the shadows, the 5D image retains a significant amount of detail in the dark areas, where there isn't much information in the GF1 files. Its possible that some if this difference is due to the different focus distance however.

Lenses Used

The Canon lens used is an older lens design that isn't currently in production. One would expect one of the newer lens designs to perform better. Having said that, the comparison is against an Olympus lens that is rated as one of the consumer grade by Olympus. All in all, it holds up pretty well.

Conclusions:

The GF1 wins on:

  • Price
  • Weight
  • White balance

The 5D II is clearly better in:
  • Dynamic Range
  • Image size

On these tests its hard to be definitive about resolution, but I think one can safely assume that with the appropriate lenses the 5D should be comfortably ahead there too.

Obviously there are many features that the 5D has that aren't relevant to this test. As I indicated from the outset, it isn't aimed at being fair, and isn't aimed at making a statement about which camera is "better" - more to get an impression. Both are outstanding and exciting cameras in their own right.

I'd appreciate your thoughts!

5D Mark II Image - default white balance
Panasonic GF1 Image - default white balance
100% Crops Canon 5D mark II (Left) vs GF1 (right)

interesting

Thanks for showing this. The GF1 holds up surprisingly well and unless you are pixel peeping there really doesn't seem to be much in it to my eyes. Certainly, in terms of quality, you'd be happy enough with either as there is no clear winner for me. Smaller sensors have come a long way these days.
Tony

Bigger is Better

No doubt the 5D11 wins in many categories. But are they the relevant categories for most shooters these days?

I'd say not,especially if the primary way your images are viewed is taken into consideration.

Unless you are printing 16x20 or cropping a tiny portion of the image onto 8 x 10, then smaller sensors make sense.

I think your efforts here support that perspective, and I am being drawn to this kicking and screaming, "Bigger IS better!"

Cheers

5d2 versus gf1

I cannot take this seriously or is this a tongue in cheek article?- the sensor of the gf1 is a tiny fraction of the full frame 5d2. I own both these cameras and when the 5d2 is bolted down, mirror up, self timer on and processed properly in RAW the performance is amazing. The same situation with the little sensor produces a file that is nowhere near as sharp (image size of about 20" on the long side of a print for example)i and the noise and dynamic range qualities are not comparable at all.

I like my panasonic a lot but they are like comparing medium format to 35 mm film.

Very funny.

Thanks for your input!

In this case the 5d was bolted down, used a cable release and came up with images that I'd consider sharp. The samples are 100% crops from Lightroom.

Its something that has interested me for some time - how big is the difference between the two products.
35mm became the dominant format because it was good enough for most applications. Have we reached the point where smaller sensors are good enough too?

I'm intending to do some more comparisons in different light that are relevant to travel photography - but in real-life situations. No test is perfect - and I won't pretend mine are - but this approach is far more useful to me than shooting a test chart at 5 meters.

I have both

And you are right, the WB on the 5D2 sucks big time! that is why I always shoot in RAW. The 5D is clearly superior but when I am walking out the door in a hurry I always take the GF1... says something about size!

thanks for sharing :) nice!

thanks for sharing :) nice!

comparison

Thanks for sharing.

I think I need to perform a similar comparison between Canon 5D/II and my Canon Powershot G11. I am having some problems with picture quality from Canon G11 when submitting for stock. However, I am usually using G11 in a more relaxed mode (e.g., when riding on inline skates).

I had a lot of problems using

I had a lot of problems using the G9 for stock - mostly noise and fringing. I moved onto a 350d and the problems went. I am a BIG fan of the G series though.

It is nice, when you can

It is nice, when you can compare the cameras and choose which is better. I think that a lot of depends on our skills. If you learn photography, practise a lot you'll achive the best results even with a cheap camera. Speaking about shooting at night I liked the book Night Photography - Finding Your Way in the Dark a lot. Here is the torrent to it: http://bytesland.com/view/Night-Photography-Finding-Your-Way-In-The-Dark... . I agree that the cameras are different but still there are peculiarities which one should better know.

I stumbled across this blog

I stumbled across this blog when looking for a wedding photographer for my cousin's wedding. I started off looking at angie's list wedding photo reviews and then I started searching for photographers that did destination weddings. I came across your site. I see that you take a lot of travel photography. You photographs are breathtaking. Do you take wedding photos? Thanks!

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